I highly doubt i'll be video conferencing with many people for a while and the apps/games are of little consequence considering the ready availability of wm5 stuff.

Keebler

Although the sizeeasy site is very nice, if the device isn't an exact shoebox, it very well may not tell the whole truth about how a device feels in your hand or pocket. Going back to the sk3 vs 8125 example, the front face of the sidekick is flatter than the back, so combining that with what I mentioned earlier about the ends of the sidekick tapering in both width and height, the sidekick feels significantly sleekier than the 8125 despite being fairly similar spec-wise.

There's a lot more to a form factor than just listing the 3 places on the device where the dimensions are the largest.

And re: the 8125 vs 8525, even using the strict dimensions:
8525 is 58 x 112.5 x 21.95 mm
8125 is 58 x 108 x 23.7 mm

So the 8525 is 1.7mm thinner, but 4.5mm longer... hardly seems like a drastic change, though I will admit that the decreased thickness probably makes it feel significantly smaller despite only being 1.7mm change.

Keebler

JomeyQ

It is true.. Take the dimensions of both and go use the sizeit site that Gizmodo uses. It's noticeably smaller. Remember.. It's not the 8125.

Yes the Dopod one works with everything here in the states. It's completely unlocked. You just have to set it correctly. It also comes with a great deal more apps and games, along with the video camera for video conferencing!

Granted it costs more and is harder to find if you don't feel like importing it, but...

Neight

ysirotin

this isn't really true. I went and compared an 8125 with my sk3 and although it was surprisingly closer to the sk3 size than i'd thought, the edges of the sk3 taper both in width and height, making it seems significantly smaller in pocket.

don't get me wrong though... I think I'm ditching my sk3 for this bad bwoy :P

Does anybody know whether or not the dopod ones you can order will work with the hsdpa network too?

If so, I may spring the extra cash for one of those.

Keebler

Alex Brewer

Neight

Wonder why they took out the video camera from the front? (Look up the TyTN, Dopod 838 Pro or JasJam)

I just ordered the Dopod version last night. I'm about to pee myself in anticipation!

Neight

rman

Ericlikesyou

phi

RGreen

The wi-fi is a little janky in low-signal environments, but overall this is a great phone.

UncleTupelo

targatop

RGreen

Keys need a little texture to them, these are too smooth and the slight dome make it annoying for me to type on. But, like I said I think I'm one of the only people to complain about the keyboard. I've yet to really find one that is comfortable for me, even the sidekick, which people rave about, annoys me. Though the grip is nice, the keys themselves are frustrating.

Lance Wallen

Ericlikesyou