If people are paying for DATA they expect to get what they want.

This is horseshit, and one of many reasons I choose my carrier carefully.

What if Tmobile sensored what you downloaded from the WiFi hotspots? Same thing? You tell me. Same for Cingular, or any other medium that you pay a premium for, for highspeed and what have you.

Verizon Sucks Shank™

Regardless of whether or not Verizon's decision sucks, it ain't censorship. By definition, only a government can censor something - ie. stop the publication of certain information using government's monopoly on force (despite what Wikipedia and the Dixie Chicks say).

I never got into the whole Vcast thing. OOOH a 30 second clip of "24"...real exciting.

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/communications/0,1000000085,392848...

This is probably because the "youtube" that you'll be getting from Verizon is just a mirror of the content on the ACTUAL youtube.

They're probably not creating an interface between your phone and youtube prime. Just copying and converting the data so that it can be pushed to your phone with only a small and reasonable wait time.

I keep waiting for "them" to realize that if we were all that hot on tiny screen full motion video, the Sony Watchman would have been a LOT more popular.

$180 a year???? Hardly.... I'd put that toward something I'd like much more. Like the NFL Sunday Ticket on DirectTV or something like that. Especially since I can get the content for free.

Silly things.... at the same time google are complaining that carriers want to stop google mobile maps...
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/communications/0,1000000085,392848...

slightly off topic - but T-Mobile annoys me with their blocking of unsigned java apps (google maps, gmail, etc)... If you actually want to *use* the data plan, your best option is to flash the bios and remove all the T-Mobile shackles...

This is exactly why 'net neutrality is so important: this is exactly what Comcast or AT&T or Verizon will do on your home internet connection if they're allowed to. You'll pay for every little thing you want to do on the 'net because the carriers will cut deals with services and websites to make more money from you, and the websites and services will have to go along with it to have access. New services or websites will be cut out because they can't pay to play.

Dump the phone companies that do this, learn about 'net neutrality and do something about it.

Is anyone else continually shocked by how mobile carriers shamelessly nickel and dime customers--and do so with a straight face? An unlimited, high-speed Internet account with an email account and a host of other services (including web storage space) typically runs $20-40/month for DSL/Cable. But with cell phones? $15 for limited web access? $10/month for messaging? $3/month to rent ringtones/wallpapers? $15/month for YouTube lite? I guess I can understand why the companies love exploiting customers like this, but it's still rapacious.

i have VcAst on my verizon phone...never ever ever used it...or thought about using it. Why do that when you haev itunes, and just upload the music anyway for free??? saemthing thing with youtube, why pay 15$ when you can just upload to your transflash for freeeeeeeeeeeee???

This is crap. I already have VZW and the only good thing about it is the service in my area (metro detroit). They dont offer unlimited out of network text messages, their data plans seem horridly overpriced, and this just adds to it. At what price will I be able to use my mobile phone to the capabilities it was designed for?

Weatherman said it all.

It is only a matter of time before your home internet connection goes down the same road.

If you don't fight to keep the net neutral, you'll lose it.

d-sier:

unfortunately, the times, they are a changin'

big business (which now includes both Google and YouTube) will do what is best for the bottom line - not the user. and the users that get hosed first are the early adopters of technology - we use it first - and for a period of time for free - then the business realizes that the masses (translate very large group of non tech savy users) represent a larger potential profit center and they dumb down thw product and make it "user friendly" (NOT) and charge for it. such is life.

our only hope is that the legislature decides that too much big business profit motivation has the potential to harm the innovative process and laws are enacted (or current laws enforced) to prevent this

In other news, water is wet, sky is blue, the president's a dumbass, and your mom's a whore...

Have'nt we learned to stay away from verizon due to the bluetooth thing a while back with the V710?

Not to mention forcing a buggy, slow "Verizon Standard" UI on everyone.

Yes yes net neutrality and all that. No need to worry, the democrats are back. Ted Stevens will just have to see the ill effects of dumping on his precious tubes.

This is not first. Verizon cripples PC to Phone upload to charge you for data services. Unlike Verizon and Sprint, European telcos are much more democratic, they don't care about your phone as long as it can talk to their infrastructure. Controlling internet content and like others like this, may be the beginning of a consumer out burst and we may eventually see government regulation on the way (couple of years ahead)

@bakaryuu

I'm going to leave Verizon for T-mobile. Do you have any links on how to flash the bios?

I love my sprint connection. Unlimited access, largest high-speed data network in the country.

Plus, no one else has so much EVDO, and especially not EVDO RevA

Well I already pay for vcast. Not that I get all that much music but it saves me air time when I'm using the internet off peak. So I guess getting a little something extra for nothing isn't so bad.